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RE: Global Warming Is A Scam Mar 5, 2008 (12:31 PM)
Yes, from the evidence it looks pretty likely to me that we're causing global warming on a horrific scale. But with science you dont need to argue. It doesn't matter who wins the debate - its about reality. By just waiting a little longer we'll get to see who was right. It just feels unethical, but i find myself wanting to keep quiet about the science just to know for sure. As terrible as it sounds, the state of the world isn't really my responsiblity. Im just thrilled to get to watch. If the scientists are right - and if we keep people from understanding just a little longer - We'll enjoy quite a ride and possibly on the outside chance that they're all wrong, i get saved the embarassment of having spoken up.
RE: Global Warming Is A Scam Mar 5, 2008 (4:12 PM)
Yes, from the evidence it looks pretty likely to me that we're causing global warming on a horrific scale. But with science you dont need to argue. It doesn't matter who wins the debate - its about reality. By just waiting a little longer we'll get to see who was right. It just feels unethical, but i find myself wanting to keep quiet about the science just to know for sure. As terrible as it sounds, the state of the world isn't really my responsiblity. Im just thrilled to get to watch. If the scientists are right - and if we keep people from understanding just a little longer - We'll enjoy quite a ride and possibly on the outside chance that they're all wrong, i get saved the embarassment of having spoken up.
I can accept this. However, the fact that you say that all or most of the scientists are supporting AGW (anthropogenic global warming) just shows how effective the media has been from shielding many people including yourself from the truth. Read this:
Disputing the alarmists and scaremongers are expert climatologists, meteorologists and astrophysicists like Richard Lindzen, William Gray, Sallie Baliunas, Fred Singer, Hugh Ellsaesser and Roy Spencer, or the 17,000 signatories to Dr. Arthur Robinson's Petition Project, who said of the Kyoto Accord: "There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate."
That is just part of an article (the link thing wont work because it gets picked up by the bobba filter). It was not written by a scientist but the little fact I quoted is true. Just search, "17000 scientists" in Google and you'll find this petition (this article is the third link to pop up).
The reason that many scientist "support" AGW is because they are pressured into it. If they stand up to it then they are bashed, lose funding, and have their reputation smeared. I know this because of many many reports of it and I have met scientists who tell me the same thing. Scientists are not frightened because they know that it's all just going to blow over. Unfortunately I highly doubt anyone who supports AGW will see consequences for their lies.
Can I see some of the evidence that convinces you that we are causing global warming? I'd be interested in seeing it. If you want more insight into my side then click here for my page. I have some facts written down and I am working on a master list of everything floating around in my mind that I have heard about this.
RE: Global Warming Is A Scam Apr 20, 2008 (2:45 AM)
The founder of the Weather Channel posts his thoughts on Global Warming
COMMENTS ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING
By John Coleman
it is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM.
Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data back in the late 1990's to create an allusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental wacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the "research" to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus.
Environmental extremist, notable politicians among them then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild "scientific" scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda.
Now their ridicules manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmental conscientious citizens. Only one reporter at ABC has been allowed to counter the Global Warming frenzy with one 15 minutes documentary segment.
I do not oppose environmentalism. I do not oppose the political positions of either party.
However, Global Warming, i.e. Climate Change, is not about environmentalism or politics. It is not a religion. It is not something you "believe in." It is science; the science of meteorology. This is my field of life-long expertise. And I am telling you Global Warming is a nonevent, a manufactured crisis and a total scam. I say this knowing you probably won't believe me, a mere TV weatherman, challenging a Nobel Prize, Academy Award and Emmy Award winning former Vice President of United States. So be it.
I suspect you might like to say to me, "John, look the research that supports the case for global warming was done by research scientists; people with PH D's in Meteorology. They are employed by major universities and important research institutions. Their work has been reviewed by other scientists with PH D's. They have to know a lot more about it than you do. Come on, John, get with it. The experts say our pollution has created a strong and increasing greenhouse effect and a rapid, out of control global warming is underway that will sky rocket temperatures, destroy agriculture, melt the ice caps, flood the coastlines and end life as we know it. How can you dissent from this crisis? You must be a bit nutty."
Allow me, please, to explain how I think this all came about. Our universities have become somewhat isolated from the rest of us. There is a culture and attitudes and values and pressures on campus that are very different. I know this group well. My father and my older brother were both PHD-University types. I was raised in the university culture. Any person who spends a decade at a university obtaining a PHD in Meteorology and become a research scientist, more likely than not, becomes a part of that single minded culture. They all look disapprovingly at the rest of us, certain of their superiority. They respect government and disrespect business, particularly big business. They are environmentalists above all else.
And, there is something else. These scientists know that if they do research and results are in no way alarming, their research will gather dust on the shelf and their research careers will languish. But if they do research that sounds alarms, they will become well known and respected and receive scholarly awards and, very importantly, more research dollars will come flooding their way.
So when these researchers did climate change studies in the late 90's they were eager to produce findings that would be important and be widely noticed and trigger more research funding. It was easy for them to manipulate the data to come up with the results they wanted to make headlines and at the same time drive their environmental agendas. Then their like minded PHD colleagues reviewed their work and hastened to endorse it without question.
There were a few who didn't fit the mold. They did ask questions and raised objections. They did research with contradictory results. The environmental elitists berated them brushed their studies aside.
I have learned since the Ice Age is coming scare in the 1970's to always be a skeptic about research. In the case of global warming, I didn't accept media accounts. Instead I read dozens of the scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct when I assure you there is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril. It is all a scam, the result of bad science.
I am not alone in this assessment. There are hundreds of other meteorologists, many of them PH D's, who are as certain as I am that this global warming frenzy is based on bad science and is not valid.
I am incensed by the incredible media glamour, the politically correct silliness and rude dismal of counter arguments by the high priest of Global Warming.
In time, a decade or two, the outrageous scam will be obvious. As the temperature rises, polar ice cap melting, coastal flooding and super storm pattern all fail to occur as predicted everyone will come to realize we have been duped.
The sky is not falling. And, natural cycles and drifts in climate are as much if not more responsible for any climate changes underway.
I strongly believe that the next twenty years are equally as likely to see a cooling trend as they are to see a warming trend.
You Weather Channel Barstard Sorry To Call You That But Im A Global Warming Activist and I think Its NOT a scam
RE: Global Warming Is A Scam Apr 23, 2008 (7:09 PM)
Well. I've beening a page down. I believe that resources should come first. Along with the war, we cannot recall 4,000 dead troops and the remaining bobbathat are running to land mines and car bombs.
RE: Global Warming Is A Scam Jul 8, 2008 (7:30 PM)
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FRankly, my dears, the earth isnt as good as it used to. there is a hole in the ozone layer. you can say global warming ia fake, but sooner or later, the world will die, and it'll be all your fault,. so keep on destroying the earth we now know who to blame.
RE: Global Warming Is A Scam Jul 5, 2008 (3:04 PM)
i agree, these damn hippies are ruining our countries with their hug a tree, save the whale things.
How could they be ruining the country? They're actually creating contraversy, which actually help the economy. Plus, caring for the PLANET YOU LIVE ON is not wrong at all. Wanting to savour it's gifts, and hopefully expand it's expected life capacity is a good thing.