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To All Those Libertad Tree-Hug
Jan 4, 2008 (6:11 PM)
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RE: To All Those Libertad Tree-Hug
Jan 4, 2008 (6:08 PM)
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Facts against global warming do exist.

There are scientists who dispute much of the government-sponsored information regarding the cause of global warming.

"I consider the concept of a global mean temperature to be somewhat dubious.

"A single number cannot adequately capture climate change. This number, as I see it, is aimed mostly at politicians and journalists." - Craig Bohren, Professor Emeritus, Pennsylvania State University

"I personally cannot in good faith continue to contribute to a process that I view as both being motivated by pre-conceived agendas and being scientifically unsound." - Chris Landsea, on resigning from the IPCC

"… those who are absolutely certain that the rise in temperatures is due solely to carbon dioxide have no scientific justification. It's pure guesswork." - Henrik Svensmark, Director of the Centre for Sun-Climate Research, Danish National Space Centre

Many of the media stories and movies like Al Gore’s “An Inconvenient Truth” make it seem like global warming is an absolute fact, that every scientist agrees with the theory, and that facts against global warming don’t exist. This just isn’t true.

FACTS AGAINST GLOBAL WARMING: DEALING IN SPECULATION?
An excerpt from Is Man Caused Global Warming a Scientific Fact? offers up one dissenter’s ideas regarding the facts against global warming…

“…The key to separating scientific knowledge from belief is that science can be demonstrated. We may never have good enough error bands on the data about global temperature data; thus it is something that is just not knowable. Opinions on things unknowable are called beliefs. Because of the inapplicability of the scientific method when dealing with open systems, opinions on global warming are beliefs akin to a sort of religious view and not scientific fact.

“…I failed to see even an estimate of the amount of error of natural emissions of CO2 in the documentation from the EPA. The science I know of means you figure the answer and then you do the hard part of calculating the minimum, maximum, and probable errors. It is not possible in this case to even have hard numbers on CO2 venting - thus we are again not looking at science, but only estimates and speculation. Attaching numbers to speculation does not elevate it to science.

“…The much hyped report from the EPA was made by people who's income depends on the continued belief of a CO2 caused warming trend.”

FACTS AGAINST GLOBAL WARMING: QUESTIONING THE IMPACT OF PEOPLE
A few interesting facts against global warming are brought up in an article called Global Warming is a Hoax:

"Global warming is a hoax, invented in 1988, that combines old myths including limits to growth, sustainability, the population growth time bomb, the depletion of resources, pollution, anti-Americanism and anti-corporate sentiment and, of all things, fear of an ice age. Those that espoused and supported the old myths have joined forced into a new group called ‘Environmentalists.’

"Most environmentalists have no technical or scientific credentials whatsoever. What they have are major news outlets ready and willing to publicize their every utterance regardless of whether or not they are backed up by scientific proof. Atmospheric science requires highly technical knowledge and skills, not possessed by the vast majority of the so-called environmentalists, who yet feel qualified to demand that human activity subjugate itself to the whims of their new deity, Mother Nature.

"Environmentalists claim that the Earth’s atmosphere is getting hotter. They claim that the polar icecaps and glaciers will melt and sea levels will rise over two hundred feet, flooding most coastal cities. They claim that many areas of the Earth will turn into deserts. They make all these claims but cannot substantiate them with real scientific evidence.

"Parts of the polar icecap and glaciers are melting but other areas of the polar icecaps and glaciers are thickening. The environmentalists base their “proof” of the existence of global warming on the melting areas but are strangely silent, even militant to the point of violence, if anyone mentions the areas that are thickening, and those thickening areas are many.

"In the past, there have been many times when the global mean temperatures were warmer, sometimes much warmer and colder, much colder than they are now. Global mean temperatures are cyclical with the seasons but also with other normal cycles, as they have been for the entire history of the Earth. Scientific data from ice cores, tree rings and other indicators of global mean temperatures prove this.

"Human activity has never been the cause of these global temperature swings as the “global warming” advocates claim. If human activity was the cause, where were the SUVs, the power plants and industries in our historical past? They did not exist. If human activity was not the cause of these global temperature swings, what was?”

Interesting facts against global warming indeed.

FACTS AGAINST GLOBAL WARMING: THE CABAL STEALS U.S. WEALTH
Another fascinating article regarding some facts against global warming is called There is no Global Warming, which discusses the Kyoto Protocol fraud:

“…only developed industrial nations will be bound by the treaty. Undeveloped Third-World nations will be free to produce whatever they want… the treaty is really about redistribution of the wealth. The wealth of the United States is and has always been the target. The new scheme to grab the loot is through environmental scare tactics.

“If, today, you were to attend a UN session on the Climate Change Protocol you would find yourself in a discussion with excited delegates from Third-World countries. They would make comments to you like, ‘when the technology transfer takes place my country will begin producing this or that item.’

“Translation - when the United States is stupid enough to fall for this scheme, the third world will take up the slack and get rich. And international corporations, who owe allegiance to no nation, will bolt America and move their factories, lock, stock and computer chip, to those Third-World countries where they will be free to carry on production.

“But that means the same emissions will be coming out of the jungles of South America instead of Chicago.

“So where is the protection of the environment? You see it's not about that - is it?

“Still not convinced? One more thing. Hidden in the small print of the treaty is a provision that calls for the ‘harmonizing of patent laws’. Now, robbing a nation of its patent protection is an interesting tactic for protecting the environment, don't you think?”

Now we’re dealing with some facts against global warming that touches on the true subject contributing to the world’s current problems: The criminal banking and industrial cabal.

This cabal that owns and controls the multinationals sees all that fertile Third World territory for more profit. Along the way, it can decimate America and all those “freedom-loving” and “free thinking” people who pose a threat to the cabal’s intent on ultimate One World Government control.

FACTS AGAINST GLOBAL WARMING: THE BANKING LINK
We could go on and on listing more facts against global warming. The point is that the same elite ruining us through items such as the Kyoto Protocol is the one ruining us through the main problem: the banking scam.

Allowing these international bankers and industrialists to control our monetary system is at the very heart of current world problems. Our money and banking is the key to the New World Order. More education on this is available at Federal Reserve banking history and Money Creation.

Once you understand that the elite cabal funds its Global Community programs, such as hiding facts against global warming, through illegal taxation and fraudulent debt creation, you can begin to see that one solution is to go after that funding.

By blindly buying into Federal taxes and a mountain of debt, Americans are unwittingly funding the elite and their totalitarian plans.

It doesn’t have to be this way. If the people are educated on the fraud, the fraud falls apart, and these bad effects of Globalization can be stopped.

We suggest you allow Aaron Russo to educate you on the fraudulent tax issue and take advantage of our debt elimination program.

FACTS AGAINST GLOBAL WARMING: OUR SOLUTION TO TYRANNY
We’ve discovered the debt solution by becoming experts on legally eliminating your debt. This process will free you financially while reducing the amount of money available to the banking cabal. We must cut the cabal’s funding and for every dollar of debt you legally eliminate through us, you’re cutting $33 out of their pockets because of their fractional reserve banking scam.

You’ve learned a few facts against global warming. Now it’s time to join us and take the positive step toward removing the funding the elite cabal is using to enslave us. Talking isn’t enough anymore. Keeping your money out of the banksters’ coffers is real, positive action.

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RE: To All Those Libertad Tree-Hug
Jan 4, 2008 (6:15 PM)
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Here is my newest post. Brandon is right about what's wrong with keeping the Earth clean? If we get it dirty enough we'll start having plagues go around, no doubt. I want to know where you gathered this infomation as a request, I would apperciete to add this to my favorites list.
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RE: To All Those Libertad Tree-Hug
Jan 4, 2008 (6:10 PM)
so why should we listen to you? i'm not listening to MTV, in fact i hate it. most of your argument was that al gore is gay, which, seeing as he's married he isn't gay. second, the Earth is only 4 million years old. so, this will be the first human caused climate change, not warming, climate change.
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RE: To All Those Libertad Tree-Hug
Jan 4, 2008 (6:12 PM)
and furthermore, what's wrong about just caring about keeping the Earth clean?
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RE: To All Those Libertad Tree-Hug
Jan 4, 2008 (6:15 PM)
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Humans can't cause another ice age alone, the pollution and toxins (which may seem alot) have a very minute effect on the enviroment compared to things such as:

Valcanoes, UV Rays dystroying the atmosphbobbahats UV from the sun) by it's self, and carbon dioxide released from the ocean along the ring of fire.

Keep the earth clean all you want, You don't need to obsess over some false/over-exaggerated beliefs though
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RE: To All Those Libertad Tree-Hug
Jan 4, 2008 (6:17 PM)
I am a man of questions.. What would they do with the money? A total scam? Or does the government take it back as hidden taxes?
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RE: To All Those Libertad Tree-Hug
Jan 4, 2008 (6:18 PM)
so why should we listen to you? i'm not listening to MTV, in fact i hate it. most of your argument was that al gore is gay, which, seeing as he's married he isn't gay. second, the Earth is only 4 million years old. so, this will be the first human caused climate change, not warming, climate change.
He meant that Al Gore's theories on the outlook of global warming are false. So it's just short for gay, you should be able to recongize this genius work.
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RE: To All Those Libertad Tree-Hug
Jan 4, 2008 (6:24 PM)
so why should we listen to you? i'm not listening to MTV, in fact i hate it. most of your argument was that al gore is gay, which, seeing as he's married he isn't gay. second, the Earth is only 4 million years old. so, this will be the first human caused climate change, not warming, climate change.
He meant that Al Gore's theories on the outlook of global warming are false. So it's just short for gay, you should be able to recongize this genius work.


how is that short for gay. i really hate when ppl insult other ppl who believe the opposite of them bcause they think that helps them get their point across. o wait, it doesnt it just makes the ppl debating against hate u more. so share ur opinions, but dont insult ppl along the way.
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RE: To All Those Libertad Tree-Hug
Jan 4, 2008 (7:22 PM)
so why should we listen to you? i'm not listening to MTV, in fact i hate it. most of your argument was that al gore is gay, which, seeing as he's married he isn't gay. second, the Earth is only 4 million years old. so, this will be the first human caused climate change, not warming, climate change.
He meant that Al Gore's theories on the outlook of global warming are false. So it's just short for gay, you should be able to recongize this genius work.


how is that short for gay. i really hate when ppl insult other ppl who believe the opposite of them bcause they think that helps them get their point across. o wait, it doesnt it just makes the ppl debating against hate u more. so share ur opinions, but dont insult ppl along the way.


Because it's common sense, and opinion of a philsopher's outlook?